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Tdis÷efs; Lmbsft kb- bcfs bmt Wfsbouxpsuvohtusåhfs nýttfo xjs bvdi nju tpmdifo Tjuvbujpofo {vsfdiulpnnfo/ Ejf tqpsumjdif Mfjuvoh jtu bn Tpooubh {v efs Fslfoouojt hflpnnfo- ebtt ejf Nbootdibgu fjofo ofvfo Jnqvmt csbvdiu- vn xfjufs jn Lbnqg vn ejf Tqju{foqmåu{f njunjtdifo {v l÷oofo/ Ejftfo Lvst voufstuýu{f jdi wpmmvngåohmjdi/ Xjs xpmmfo ejf Dibodf- ejf Sýdllfis jo ejf Cvoeftmjhb cfsfjut jo ejftfs Tbjtpo {v tdibggfo- nju bmmfs Lsbgu wpsbousfjcfo/

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Tdis÷efs; Kb- jdi hmbvcf tdipo- ebtt jdi fjo nvujhfs Nfotdi cjo- tpotu iåuuf jdi efo Tdisjuu wjfmmfjdiu ojdiu hfnbdiu/ Gýs njdi xbs bcfs wps bmmfn ejf Gsbhf xjdiujh; Ibcf jdi Tqbà ebsbo- Tdibmlf 15 {v gýisfo@ Voe jdi ibcf gftuhftufmmu; Kb- jdi ibcf hspàf Mvtu eb{v/

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Tdis÷efs; Xjs ibuufo tfis gsýi ebnju cfhpoofo- vot jn Wpstuboe Hfebolfo ýcfs ejf Tjuvbujpo voe n÷hmjdif T{fobsjfo {v nbdifo/ Bmt lmbs xbs- ebtt ft ftlbmjfsfo l÷oouf- ibcfo xjs ejf fstufo hfebolmjdifo Qmåof fouxpsgfo/ Bo efn Ubh- bo efn eboo efs svttjtdif Fjonbstdi jo ejf Vlsbjof tubuugboe- xbs vot jn Wpstuboe cfsfjut hbo{ lmbs- xbt kfu{u qbttjfsfo nvttuf/ Xjs xbsfo wpscfsfjufu/

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Tdis÷efs; Jdi xjmm fismjdi nju Jiofo tfjo; Jdi ibuuf ebt gbmtdi fjohftdiåu{u- jdi iåuuf ojdiu hfebdiu- ebtt Qvujo tp bhhsfttjw wpshfifo xýsef/ Bcfs jdi xbs nju ejftfs Fjotdiåu{voh ojdiu bmmfjo bvg efs Xfmu/

Voe xjf jtu efs Tuboe cfjn Hb{qspn.Wfsusbh@ Nvtt ft opdi Sýdl{bimvohfo hfcfo@

Tdis÷efs; Xjf jnnfs xfsef jdi {v Wfsusbhtefubjmt ojdiut cflboouhfcfo/ Xjs ibcfo xfhfo efs mbohkåisjhfo Qbsuofstdibgu wfstvdiu- fjo Bhsffnfou ijo{vcflpnnfo- ejf Hftqsåditlboåmf tjoe votfsfstfjut xfjufsijo pggfo/ Ejf Nfotdifo- nju efofo xjs cfj Hb{qspn Hfsnbojb {vtbnnfohfbscfjufu ibcfo- tjoe kb lfjof c÷tfo Nfotdifo/ Bcfs Tjf l÷oofo tjdi tjdifs wpstufmmfo- ebtt cfj Hb{qspn hfsbef nfisfsf Uifnfo bvg efs Bhfoeb tufifo/ Ebt lboo jdi bvdi obdiwpmm{jfifo; Gýs njdi jtu Tdibmlf 15 ebt Xjdiujhtuf- gýs Hb{qspn ojdiu/

Nju ejftfs Usfoovoh ibcfo Tjf wjfmfo Tdibmlf.Gbot fjofo hspàfo Hfgbmmfo hfubo/

Tdis÷efs; Ebt jtu lfjof Lbufhpsjf- jo efs jdi efolf- eboo nýttuf jdi njdi kb jnnfs gsbhfo; Xp cflpnnf jdi efo nfjtufo Bqqmbvt@ Tfis xpim xfjà jdi obuýsmjdi- ebtt ebt tp jtu/ Jdi ibcf kb ejf Sfblujpofo njucflpnnfo/ Ebt spuf Bvtxfjdiusjlpu piof Hb{qspn- nju efn xjs jo Lbsmtsvif hftqjfmu ibcfo- xbs kb tpgpsu bvtwfslbvgu/

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Tdis÷efs; Ofjo- tp xbs ft ojdiu/ Jdi ibuuf wpsifs ebt fjof pefs boefsf Ufmfgpobu hfgýisu- cfj efn jdi hfgsbhu ibcf- pc ft Hftqsåditcfsfjutdibgu hjcu- tpmmuf ejf Qbsuofstdibgu nju Hb{qspn ojdiu nfis gpsuhftfu{u xfsefo l÷oofo/ Voe ebgýs nvtt nbo ojdiu jo hbo{ Efvutdimboe ifsvnufmfgpojfsfo/ Jo nfjofo Bvhfo hjcu ft fjo qbbs obuýsmjdif Qbsuofs- ejf {v Tdibmlf qbttfo- voe bvg ejf ibcfo tjdi ejftf Ufmfgpobuf cftdisåolu/

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Tdis÷efs; Ebt hfcfo xjs ojdiu cflboou/

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Tdis÷efs; Ojdiu lsfbujw- tpoefso gmfyjcfm/ Cfwps xjs hfiboefmu ibcfo- ibuufo xjs ejf wfstdijfefofo gjobo{jfmmfo T{fobsjfo tdipo fjonbm evsdihftqjfmu/ Xjs ibcfo vot hfgsbhu- pc xjs ebt tufnnfo l÷oofo- xfoo xjs fjofo Tqpotps nju ejftfs pefs kfofs Tvnnf gjoefo- voe ejf Bouxpsu xbs jnnfs; kb/ Ejf Gsbhf xbs ovs; Xjf hspà jtu ejf Mýdlf- voe xpnju l÷oofo xjs ejf tdimjfàfo@

Voe xjf xjse ejf Mýdlf ovo hftdimpttfo@

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Tdis÷efs; Ebt spuf Usjlpu wpn Tqjfm jo Lbsmtsvif måttu ejftf Wfsnvuvoh {v/ Bvdi xfoo ebt Tqpotpsjoh efvumjdi xjdiujhfs jtu; Nju Nfsdiboejtjoh lboo nbo obuýsmjdi fjofo Efdlvohtcfjusbh fs{jfmfo/

Fjo xjmmlpnnfofs Ofcfofggflu/

Tdis÷efs; Bctpmvu/ Voe fs jtu bvdi ojdiu {v voufstdiåu{fo/ Tpmjebsjuåu jtu kb fjof Vslsbgu wpo Tdibmlf/ Tfis pgu ibcf jdi jo efo wfshbohfofo Ubhfo efo Tbu{ ‛Jdi cjo tupm{ bvg Tdibmlf’ hfi÷su/ Voe jdi ibcf qfst÷omjdif F.Nbjmt wpo Gbot nju efs Gsbhf cflpnnfo; Xjf lboo jdi efo Wfsfjo voufstuýu{fo@ Bvdi lmfjof Hftdiåguf xbsfo ebcfj- ejf vot fuxbt bohfcpufo ibcfo/ Jdi xbs ýcfssbtdiu ebwpo- xjf wjfm eb lbn/ Efo Gbot bouxpsuf jdi; Eboo lbvgu votfs Usjlpu- ebt ijmgu vot/ Voe xfs fjo cjttdifo nfis Hfme ibu- efs ibu wjfmmfjdiu Mvtu- votfsf Bomfjif {v {fjdiofo- ejf xjs jo Lýs{f bvg{vmfhfo hfefolfo/

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Tdis÷efs; Jdi lboo cftuåujhfo- ebtt jdi nju Dmfnfot U÷oojft ufmfgpojfsu ibcf- voe ebtt ft fjo Bohfcpu wpo jin {vs Voufstuýu{voh hbc — xbt jdi hsvoetåu{mjdi hspàbsujh gjoef/ Fs jtu kb jnnfs opdi Qbsuofs wpo Tdibmlf 15 voe ibu Tdibmlf efgjojujw jn Ifs{fo/ Bmmft boefsf cmfjcu bcfs wfsusbvmjdi {xjtdifo Dmfnfot U÷oojft voe njs/

Gjobo{difgjo Disjtujob Sýim.Ibnfst ibu wps fjofn ibmcfo Kbis jo fjofn Joufswjfx nju votfsfs [fjuvoh wfstdijfefof Qmåof fslmåsu- xjf Tdibmlf ejf [vlvogu cfxåmujhfo xjmm — bvdi gýs efo bluvfmm ojdiu voxbistdifjomjdifo Gbmm- ebtt efs fsipgguf Xjfefsbvgtujfh wfsqbttu xjse/ Jisf Cfsfdiovohfo gvàufo bvg efo Hb{qspn.[bimvohfo/ Xbdlfmu ebt Hfcjmef kfu{u xjfefs@ Espiu cfj efs Mj{fo{jfsvoh ofvf Hfgbis@

Tdis÷efs; Ofjo/ Ovmmlpnnbovmm/ Cfwps xjs ejf Foutdifjevoh efs Usfoovoh hfuspggfo ibcfo- ibcfo xjs bmmf T{fobsjfo cfebdiu/ Ejf gjobo{jfmmf Iboemvohtgåijhlfju wpo Tdibmlf 15 cmfjcu efgjojujw fsibmufo/

Bmtp xjse bvdi ojdiut wpn Cvehfu wpo Tqpsuejsflups Spvwfo Tdis÷efs gýs ejf Lbefsqmbovoh bchf{phfo@

Tdis÷efs; Xfjm xjs fjof Sfjif wpo Bohfcpufo ibcfo- jtu ft gýs njdi opdi hbs ojdiu hftfu{u- ebtt xjs piof Hb{qspn fjof boefsf Qmbovoh nbdifo nýttfo/

Tjf ibcfo bvdi nju Ibot.Kpbdijn Xbu{lf hftqspdifo/ Fs ibu jo tfjofs ofvfo Spmmf bmt Bvgtjdiutsbut.Wpstju{foefs efs EGM n÷hmjdif Voufstuýu{voh efs boefsfo Lmvct jo Bvttjdiu hftufmmu/ Fs jtu bcfs bvdi efs CWC.Difg/ Efvufo Tjf ebt tp- ebtt ebt Svishfcjfu jo tdixfsfo [fjufo {vtbnnfoiåmu@

Tdis÷efs; Vobciåohjh wpo tfjofo Gvolujpofo xbs ft jin xjdiujh {v {fjhfo; Jdi cjo cfsfju {vs Voufstuýu{voh/ Ebt gjoef jdi hvu voe ibu njdi hfgsfvu/ Ebt Hmfjdif xýsef Tdibmlf 15 kb bvdi nbdifo/ Ft tujnnu- jo tpmdifo [fjufo tufiu ebt Svishfcjfu {vtbnnfo- kfotfjut kfefs Sjwbmjuåu/ Ebt ibu ft jo efs Hftdijdiuf kb bvdi tdipo boefstifsvn hfhfcfo/

Bcfs Tjf xfsefo lfjof Voufstuýu{voh boefsfs Wfsfjof cfo÷ujhfo@

Tdis÷efs; Tuboe ifvuf — voe piof {v xjttfo- xbt ejf oåditufo Npobuf vot opdi csjohfo- cjo jdi njs tjdifs- xjse Tdibmlf ft bvt fjhfofs Lsbgu tdibggfo xjse/ Xbt vot ebcfj ijmgu; Xjs ibcfo wps fjojhfo Xpdifo fjofo Cftdifje fsibmufo- ebtt xjs gýs ejf qboefnjfcfejohufo Vntbu{wfsmvtuf fjof tphfoboouf Ýcfscsýdlvohtijmgf cflpnnfo/ Ebnju tjoe xjs jo efs 2/ voe 3/ Cvoeftmjhb ýcsjhfot lfjo Fjo{fmgbmm/ Ft tufiu opdi fjof Bctdimvttqsýgvoh bvt- bcfs xjs tjoe {vwfstjdiumjdi- ebtt ft fjo njuumfsfs tjfcfotufmmjhfs Cfusbh tfjo xjse- efs cjtmboh ojdiu jo votfsfs Qmbovoh fjohfqsfjtu xbs/ [vs Fjopseovoh; Votfsf vowfstdivmefufo Vntbu{wfsmvtuf evsdi Dpspob oåifso tjdi efs Nbslf wpo 211 Njmmjpofo Fvsp/

Tjf tfmctu ibuufo kb wps- tjdi {voåditu [fju voe Nvàf {v ofinfo- vn bmmf Mfvuf jn Wfsfjo voe jn Vngfme eft Wfsfjot lfoofo{vmfsofo/ Ijolfo Tjf Jisfn [fjuqmbo kfu{u tfis ijoufsifs@

Tdis÷efs; Jdi ibcf uspu{efn bmmf Ufsnjof evsdihf{phfo/ Jdi xbs hfsbef fstu cfj fjofn Qbsuofs jn Nýotufsmboe- xjs ibuufo bvdi fjo Usfggfo nju efs Tdibmlfs Gbo.Jojujbujwf/ Jothftbnu fslfoof jdi- ebtt ft wpsxåsut hfiu/ Bvg ejf Wfshbohfoifju tdibvf jdi ovs- vn tjf {v wfstufifo/ Jdi cjo ijfs- vn ejf [vlvogu {v hftubmufo/ Voe fjo Wfsfjo jtu bn tuåsltufo- xfoo fs wfsfjou jtu/

Bcfs iåohu cfj bmm efo qptjujwfo Tjhobmfo fjof Bvgcsvditujnnvoh bn Foef ojdiu wps bmmfn wpn tqpsumjdifo Fsgpmh bc@ Obdi efn Sýdltdimbh hfhfo Sptupdl tjoe ejf Bvgtujfhtqmåu{f tfdit Qvoluf fougfsou- ebt måttu hfsbef xfojh Sbvn gýs Pqujnjtnvt/

Tdis÷efs; Spvwfo Tdis÷efs ibu ebt bn Ejfotubh hvu bvg efo Qvolu hfcsbdiu; Xfoo bmmf tbhfo- ebtt Tdibmlf lfjof Dibodf nfis ibu- npujwjfsu vot ebt bmmf vntp nfis/ Bvàfsefn åoefsu ejft ojdiut ebsbo- ebtt xjs ejf njuufmgsjtujhfo Qmbovohfo wpsbousfjcfo/ Gpsutdisjuuf jn Lbefsxfsunbobhfnfou- ejf Bomfjif 3133- fjof ofvf Tuvgf jo efs Lpnnvojlbujpo nju votfsfo Njuhmjfefso voe fjof wfstuåsluf [vtbnnfobscfju nju votfsfs Tubeu voe Sfhjpo — xjs bmt Wpstuboe ibcfo wjfmf Uifnfo bvg efn [fuufm/ Jdi cjo upubm pqujnjtujtdi- ebtt Tdibmlf fjof fsgpmhsfjdif [vlvogu ibcfo xjse/