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Jochen Busse: „Ich habe die Begabung, glücklich zu sein“

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treu trifft - Jochen Busse

treu trifft - Jochen Busse

treu trifft - Thomas Reunert spricht mit Menschen, die was zu sagen haben. Heute: Schauspieler, Kabarettist und Autor Jochen Busse.

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Iserlohn.  Der trainierte Lispler und der selbstbestimmte Abgang. Gespräche mit Jochen Busse kommen gerne von Hölzken auf’s Stöcksken . . .

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