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Arndt G. Kirchhoff: „Keiner von uns kannte eine Pandemie“

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IKZ-Chefredakteur Thomas Reunert, auf dem Kamerabildschirm zu sehen, im Gespräch mit Arndt G. Kirchhoff.

IKZ-Chefredakteur Thomas Reunert, auf dem Kamerabildschirm zu sehen, im Gespräch mit Arndt G. Kirchhoff.

Foto: Michael May

Iserlohn.  Ein Interview mit dem Unternehmer Arndt G. Kirchhoff zu wirtschaftlichen Themen und der Frage, was sich in Deutschland ändern muss

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