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Oskar Lafontaine in Iserlohn – Milliarden sind nie verdient

Bei seinem Besuch in Iserlohn nahm sich Oskar Lafontaine Zeit für ein Gespräch mit der Heimatzeitung. Der 77-Jährige erklärt, bei welchen Themen er sich noch immer aufregen kann.

Bei seinem Besuch in Iserlohn nahm sich Oskar Lafontaine Zeit für ein Gespräch mit der Heimatzeitung. Der 77-Jährige erklärt, bei welchen Themen er sich noch immer aufregen kann.

Foto: Torsten Lehmann / IKZ

Iserlohn.  Für Oskar Lafontaine sind Verteilungsgerechtigkeit, Mindestlohn und Schutz vor Überwachung die wichtigsten Themen.

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